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[Table] I am a Music Producer who works for Atlantic Records. AMA

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Date: 2012-12-21
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1) How much sex, drugs, and boozing goes on in the studio? 1) Sex. Never seen it. heard of it, never seen it. Drugs. On occasion. Boozing. I've been known to have a Whiskey neat while in the studio, nothing overboard.
2) How do you deal with all the over-inflated egos? 2)Usually tend to treat them like children.
3) How much do you make a year? 3)More than $30k less than $200k haha.
4) How does someone with zero experience get into your line of work? 4)Youtube. There's a goldmine of tutorials.
5) What is the biggest perk/downfall of your job? 5) Perk: Travel! I love to travel! Downfall: People from my past "suddenly remembering" we're best friends.
6) Do you believe in any illuminati conspiracies? 6) A lot of people laugh at that illuminati bullshit. A lot of artists play it up, just to get people talking about their video. It's honestly just a marketing gimmick at this point.
7) What are the keys to being succesfull in your line of work? 7) HARD motherfucking WORK. There's no way around it. You need to spend hours mastering your craft before you'll even be considered.
8) What is the most amount of cash and/or drugs you have seen at once? 8) Cash: 500k at once. Drugs: I honestly try my hardest to stay away from all that shit.
9) Who is the most over-rated music star right now? 9) 2 Chainz & Tyler, the Creator.
10) What is the most degrading thing you have seen someone do to be around a celebrity? 10) I've had girls from my home town offer me untolds amount of sexual favours to have me let them meet their favourite singerappemusician. Girls can honestly be the worst.
2)Usually tend to treat them like children. So, $31,000. Yes I eat babies for 31k.
Can you explain why you name these too? I have below.
Dont you think Tyler's earlier work was good? I do agree that his new stuff is pretty awful. I've just really never been a fan of the guy in general. Just my own personal preference I guess.
I would like to ask you the question #3 again, because as a musician this is actually a line of work I'm considering. I'd rather not put my income out there.
For the first 10 years I made really jack shit. A few decent placements here and there, but nothing I could fully live off of. Now I can help my parents out, pay for my school, and be comfortable.
6) o_- Ʌ THE TRIANGLE.
12) What percent of your success would you attribute to luck/skill? 12) Luck about 30% the other 70% skill.
Oh yeah i can understand why. his childish way of reacting to success along with his cult army of teenagers yelling swag im surprised that i still like his music. I've never seen more white kids drop the N-Word because they think it's acceptable because they want to be edgy like him.
Here's the sad part: I'm gonna go look up this 2 chains guy/thing now. Birthday Song.
Don't ask me why. Just do it.
I wonder if hiphopheads has seen this... Couldn't agree more. If I knew how to cross post, I would have posted in there.
You still go to school? Yes indeed! Currently finishing my Bachelor of Commerce with a concentration in International Management.
That was intended to be a wink. I just realized it's other interpretation. This shit goes deep man... But...we must go deeper.
Finally someone who shares that sentiment. He seems akin to sophmore kids who shout fuck at the mall because it's not the social norm. Honestly, I've never heard it put in better words. Have an up vote.
Fair enough. I appreciate your reply. My pleasure, my friend!
I can't agree more. Have an up vote for agreeing!
By mr. 2 chainz I presume? That would be correct, my good sir.
There's no science to cross posting really. You just post in two subreddits simultaneously and title them cross posts so people know you're giving credit/letting people know the post exists on other subreddits. I'm going to pretend I understood exactly what you just said!
By the way, thanks for the AMA! And not a problem!
Dude, wtf? I didn't do shit to you. I'm sorry man. I'm just at this place in my life where I have to hurt others to feel better about myself.
I feel dirty. I need to balance this out. Who are two artists who you feel are underrated? Underrated artists? Logic - I suggest checking out his song "Numbers" annnd D-Pryde. Great rapper. Young dude. From Canada.
Have you discovered anyone? -Ever had to babysit performers? "Discovered" - No. I've worked with people before they were famous however. Notably - The Weeknd and Conor Maynard (although that was only mixing and mastering some records).
Babysit. Oh God. I've been waiting awhile to tell this story.
One of my jobs in high school was a studio technician at a local studio in my home town. As a studio technician I was basically there to work all the cable running and mic set-ups within the studio. One rainy night (gotta set the mood ;) ) I get a call from the studio manager telling me the normal studio engineer is out of town and they need me to take over for him for this 13 year old girl whose daddy was paying good money to record her demo. So, I raced to the studio, set-up the session and began the recording process. The records were all demo'd and done for her before hand, she literally just had to go in and lay vocals. Now even in my youth I had a good ear of what sounded good and what was terrible (I'm blessed with perfect pitch to top it off). Every take, this girls father would be bouncing around in the studio shouting "THATS THE TAKE! THIS IS THE ONE!". To the point of it becoming incredibly irritating. Now anyone who works in a studio will tell you, singers will rarely ever get it on the first take. After 5 hours of dealing with this, I eventually kicked them out of the studio for the night because I simply couldn't deal with her father.
TL;DR - Father was a Prima Donna - got his ass kicked out of the studio.
Was her name Rebecca Black? Hahahaha. Nope!
5 hours?? I commend your patience. He would have been gone after 5 minutes if I was in there. The worst part is they had booked 3 more sessions. I refused to work with them.
Was the girl's mother a Ma'Donna? Ba dom tisss.
Damn! I thought it would match perfectly! I wouldn't admit it if it was. I'd feel so much shame for not destroying the monster before it almost destroyed the interwebs.
What is it like working for such a large label? Would you rather work for someone else? How did this come about? First, thanks for the first question! I was getting weary that this would get buried!
This is my second label I've worked with directly (through a contract). The first one I was young, naive and signed a stupid contract that did more harm to my career than good. Working for Atlantic is exciting in all honesty. I've never been more comfortable with a major label! I really can't say enough good things about how they've treated me.
Would I rather work for someone else? By "someone else" I'm assuming you mean "another label". That being the case, if the terms of the contract were better than what I currently have with Atlantic, I would not hesitate!
The gist of how this came about is I've been producing music for just over 10 years, and their A&R department eventually contacted me after hearing an earlier placement of mine. They liked my ideas and my sound and offered me a contract to produce in-house. Luck mixed with a lot of handwork!
Hope these are clear and concise enough to answer your questions!
Pro Tools or Logic? One really good tip for newbies? I am an engineer of 3 years and about to begin an internship at an artist's home studio. I'm born and bred on Pro Tools, but I can never undermine Logic. Still a very powerful program.
I'm a big supporter in it doesn't matter WHAT you use, but HOW you use it. If given the option, I'll still rock FL Studio for production then export to Pro Tools for final mixing and mastering (Yes it's tedious, but it's just my style haha)
I'm so familiar and fast with PT now, that I probably won't ever switch. What about any tips? I always tell people, stick with what works best for you and you're most comfortable with.
As for tips. Stockpile as many effects, presets, and VST's as you can. You'll never know when you need that one sound to make a record hot.
Also, spend a good amount of time creating your own Compression, Reverb and EQ presets. This will help create your signature sound.
And just as a general tip for production, have a mobile set-up. ALWAYS. You'll never know when you need to work or have the urge to create!
Good tip, man. I actually have the Waves bundle, and a bunch more other plugins, but simply enjoy the simplicity of stock plugins that I rarely use anything else. I've honestly never used 80% of my effects and VST's but it's good to know they are there if something comes up or styles change!
Where's the future of music producing heading? Is your job threatenetend by the likes of Spotify and other companies similar to it? What's changed since it (Spotify) has come around? The future of Music is bleak and exciting all at the same time. It depends on what perspective you look at it from.
Bleak: Everybody and their Mama is a music producer now. Which has really watered down the quality of music out there. Labels can now by exclusive licenses to records for 19$-35$ then turn around and make a $1,000,000 profit off that song. Not to mention, you can see in a lot of songs out there, mixing, mastering and general creativity is almost stagnant. A prime example of this is the recent song "Pop That" by French Montana. Listening to that song actually hurts my soul if you listen to it with good headphones. The mixing is absolutely horrendous.
Exciting: EVERYBODY CAN BE A PRODUCER. The thing about technology becoming so readily available to everyone to create music, is it gives the people who generally didn't have an avenue to create to put their music out and show the world. I personally benefitted a lot from this aspect. Furthermore the need for a label is slowly diminishing. Meaning, artists can now make a sustainable living off being independent. See Macklemore and Ryan Lewis.
I don't think Spotify or similar companies threaten MY job. Because no matter what there will always need to be people who make the music that will be listened to.
Manager gets 20, booking agent gets 10, so shit after taxes me and ryan have seven percent, TO SPLIT! That songs on my workout playlist.
Honestly. A lot of what he says in that song is 100% accurate. I feel bad for artists nowadays :(
If the need for a label is slowly diminishing, do you think they will try to have more control over artist tours? I don't know how much they have, I've just always been told that artists only ever make their money from merch. So feel free to prove me wrong if that is not the case. Go look up what a 360 deal is.
But essentially yes. Unless you're a high name artist (Drake, Kanye, Lady Gaga, etc.) who owns most of their publishing and a large chunk of their royalties. I can tell you first hand, the industry is panicking with the internet and piracy (See RIAA suing EVERYBODY). As a knee jerk reaction, yes labels are moving towards controlling more and more of what an artist does.
Most people being shitty producers, however, make it hard for those of us who have talent and do it well to have any sort of credibility with a label. A-freakin-men.
Producers are a dime a dozen these days. Just like artists. It takes a special person to stand out and leave their mark.
Back in the day, we had garagebands galore, but it took a special person to stand out and leave their mark. Everything changes, yet stays the same. That was deep man. Have an up vote.
How do large labels generally look at more underground genres? Do you ever get bummed out because you really just can't stand the music you're producing, when you know that this person will make boatloads of money off of no talent? I haven't come across music that absolutely breaks my heart to make. I'm a fan of all genres and sub genres. Except country. Fuck country. Don't ask me why, but the twang just kills my insides.
But. I guess to try and answer your question. There are songs out there that I sit back and think "Uh...wtf is this shit?". In terms of a mechanical stand point.
I like to think of myself as a musician who holds a lot of integrity and love for music so when I see that stuff, I feel it devalues what I do.
What do you think would sound better, 100 duck-sized horses or 1 horse-sized duck? If we could line the 100 duck sized horses in a choir line, and have them attend weekly practices. We might have something.
Although, the 1 horse-size duck might have an amazing baritone.
I'll take the choir.
Edit* I'm a retard at spelling apparently.
What do you think about "trap" producers such as Southside, Lex Luger, Sonny Digital, etc. I know they are successful (plaques on the wall, radio hits, Grammy nominations) and I personally like the sound. But sometimes I feel like they are copy cats of each other, and sound way too much alike. Opinion? I'm hot and cold on trap producers. Their sound is too easily duplicated and they literally all sound the same. I'm usually good at picking out who produced one song, but with them, it's literally like they have the same project files.
I'll never knock their success, however. They're doing something right and appealing to the masses.
While I have you here, another question. Ever work with Mike Posner? No! But he's an amazing writer! Amazing singer. Definitely doesn't get the exposure he deserves. Him and Mason killed Bieber's Boyfriend.
Some respect for MDL! that's what I like to see. he is so dope.. murdered that NY NY beat. He's a really great guy honestly. I've learned about 85% of my craft through him.
That NY, NY beat was deadly.
He's an all around really talented guy. Check out his YouTube videos of him making beats in his dorm room at duke. Also, you mentioned that you use FL. I do too. What's the best way to switch up your drum styles. My music has been sounding kinda stagnant lately. I find myself using the same drum patterns and sounds in almost every project. How do you get those (I like to call em..) "J. Cole" drums outta FL? Ignore the step counter and start playing with the piano roll for making beats. You can make interesting drum patterns! Other than that, MIDI it up! Which is essentially the same thing, but with hardware.
Hell yea, love my midi. Creativity just flows so much better with the hardware. Thanks for all the input man. If you ever find yourself in Nashville TN hit me up. I won't kill you. Lol. That's the biggest stipulation I have for friendship. You have passed! Hahaha, sounds good my friend!
Do you play any instruments? Does it help you in the studio? Do you ever lay tracks or dubs for your projects? I taught myself to play the piano when I was 14! And yes! Immensely. With midi technology it's essential. I can literally play any instrument through my midi board. I do both, depending on the project/genre. Never try to limit myself.
What do you think the music of the future will sound like? More inclusive. Hip-hop doesn't take anymore talent other than being clever with words (and even thats a stretch for some artists). I think you'll see Hip-Hop transform into the one genre that transcends race, gender, orientation, etc etc.
Mechanically. I think it'll start to sound more and more electronic influenced. I think a lot of genre lines will be very very blurry within the next 10-15 years.
What type of car do you drive? Yesterday I was whipping around in a badass Mustang...on my great grandparents farm...it was a horse is what I'm trying to say haha.
And nothing special! I like to live unassuming, BMW 323i - 2008!
Also I was wondering about the process from music production to track release, do the artists choose from a range of various beats from the label producers (I think I read that somewhere) and lay down vocals on them or do you work with some of them collab style? For Hip-hop/R&B/Pop modern genres, you'd be hard pressed to find an artist who just doesn't get flooded with beats and just pick and choose.From either in-house or independent producers.
There are still a few great artists out there however who sit down with the producers and churn out really meaningful songs!
Oh ok. Not a problem, my friend!
How does a musician these days get signed up for a label? I've heard that they look more for image than talent. Building a brand around ones self is crucial. Basically. If theres something you can do that you think a record label would have to pay money to have done, do it before the come looking. You'll be more attractive to them. Build an image, brand, fan base, personality, sound etc.
TL;DR - Labels are lazy.
Who haven't you worked with, but would like to? Haha, I understood!
Sorry, awkward grammar. I would LOVE to work with Eminem. Would sacrifice a small Brazilian boy to get that opportunity.
Hi, I have a couple things to ask! 1) I use fl studio for everything , what vsts do you use? 2) Why Pro Tools over fl studio for mastering? 3) Would you rather fight 100 duck suzed Trinidad James' or 1 Trinidad James sized duck? 1) Magician never reveals his secrets. However. I'll tell you Nexus is a great tool. One of my favourite despite its commonality.
2) I originally just used it in the infancy of my career to help myself feel more professional. When it comes down to it, I honestly believe FL has the same power as Pro Tools if you know how to use it properly. At this point it's more habit and familiarity.
3) FINALLY. 100 Duck sized Trinidad James. When I was a kid, my parents always had a problem when we went to ponds where I'd chase and try and kick and punch ducks. I'm a seasoned pro.
Biggest up and coming producer in your opinion ? I love Clams Casino's work! Right now I'd say him!
Nice! I'll check him out. Have you worked with MdL ? He's a good friend of mine, actually!
As a producer, what do you actually "do" in the studio? You're obviously not the tracking engineer or the mixing/mastering engineers ... so what are you doing in the studio? Step 1: Sit down in front of keyboard Step 2: Put sounds together Step 3: ??? Step 4: PROFIT!
In all honesty, I make the music that you hear. Whether it be through playing live instruments, or synthetic sounds (mostly synthetic for me).
Thanks for the response. I'm a musician myself, though have never (and likely will never) get to the point where a producer becomes involved, so thanks for the clarification. 1) Since you're making the sounds/instrumentation, does that have any effecgt on songwriting credits? If so, what sort of litmus test exists for this (kind of hinting at the screenwriters' type deal)? 2) How does the role of a producer with a real band (think Mumford & Sons) contrast with that of a producer in your position (sorry if i'm assuming too much, but it seems you're a pop/hiphop/electronic leaning producer)? In modern music, you can get a song writing credit for simply being in the studio and saying "yeah that sounds good". It's all really messed up. Unless I'm asked, I never really delve into song writing duties. There's no real "test" that I'm aware of. A producer for a band, someone like Mutt Lange, kind of gives the band direction and ideas for the entire record. Where as I make individual tracks.
RE: #4. If you had said I-V-VI-IV I would have /threaded the shit out of this thread. Cheers! Hahaha, I knew that was coming. I debated saying it just to see the reaction :P.
Because of your success is it a lot harder to make genuine friends? Do you have a set core of friends you only go out with? Do you have a hard time trusting people now ? I try to stay away from telling people about my career until they get to know me. Me being in school, it makes it a lot harder. Word travels fast. I do have a great core of friends who have been with me since the beginning, they definitely keep me grounded and humble.
In particular, I find it hard to trust new women (I'm currently single because of this...ladies ;) ) as soon as a lot of them find out what I do, who I've worked with, my bank account, etc etc, it's like the crazy gene kicks in and they see me as a piggy bank.
However, I have met a lot of new people that are really cool and don't just like me because of my success and what I do!
It's definitely the catch-22 of this job.
Do you work in LA? No sir! I'll be there in January, however!
Nice! you just visiting or moving ? Studio session actually! I'll never move to the States. I've had the opportunity, but, I enjoy where I live now :D.
Yea, the city gets to be a little to much sometimes. lets grab a BEER! If you don't rape and kill me, I'm down. Inbox me, I'll keep you posted.
Do you ever think about making an album of your own? If not, why? Funny you should ask.
I'm in the process of finishing a full-length instrumental album! I've always wanted to create an album of my own and have always been fond of concept albums! Unfortunately I wasn't born with pipes to sing.
What genre of music ? Would you start doing sets ? It's a blend of a lot of genres. Very piano and orchestra based. Although I produce mostly modern music, I'm in love with orchestras! I'll be conducting one in LA this January!
As for sets. Maybe. One of my best friends is a DJ and usually when I have a new record, he spins it to test the record out in a live setting. That's about as close as I think I'll go to live sets!
Sound kinda similar to stuff I'm working on (though I'm sure yours will sound a lot more professional!). Is it going to be widely released, or is it something hat you can hook us up with a Bandcamp link or something? I'm sure more people than just I would like to hear it. It's under wraps at the moment, but, since the overwhelming response I've gotten on this AMA, I may begin to leak some of it over reddit to get a response ;)
So, I Dj mainly Electro House, and want to learn how to produce. I have purchased some midi controllers and am having a hard time mapping them etc. I know nobody that has any experience with these things, and i'm having a hard time teaching myself. What would you recommend I should do? YOUTUBE. Youtube is a godsend for up and coming producers.
Also how hard is it to get into the industry? It took me 10 years to sign have my first contract offered to me. 6 for my first placement. It's about persistence. I'd say it's as hard as making the NFL. You need to pay your dues and put in the work. There's no real set formula.
Also i forgot to ask, Did you go to school for this, or did you come up from Youtube? I went to school/still going to school for business (working on my second business degree currently) I was however accepted to 3 music schools in the US but chose to decline there offers for a normal education. Never regretted the decision! A lot of it has come from working with other producers, yes Youtube, and trial and error!
2 chainz (tity boi) has put his time in though, he's been around since Luda came out with dtp. Say what you want about his music (he has put out some good songs: Link to www.youtube.com ), he's no overnight success. Have an up vote for facts.
Have you ever stepped on someones toes to get where you're at right now ? I've always tried to maintain some sort of professional and friendly attitude in my journey through this industry. Have I sent very strongly worded emails to people, yes. Have I intentionally thrown someone under the bus to advance my career, never. That's just not the type of person I am.
Do you usually finish a song before starting another one? How long does it take you to finish a track for an artist ? At any given time, I have about 15 songs on the go. Some are for artists. Some are for my catalogue.
And honestly depends. Sometimes I get on what I call "Highs" and I can churn out 2-3 songs a day (not full mastered mind you).
Mood is a big factor for me. I find it hard to create something that i'm not in the mood for at that time. Does this ever happen to you ? Sometimes I can put myself int he mindset of what I want to create even with the external circumstances. But 95% of what I create is based on my current mood. If I feel like getting crazy, I'll churn out a nice party record. If I'm feeling in the dumps, I'll churn out a sad slow piano piece. Mood does dictate a lot of what I do. But it doesn't 100% control what I create.
Dude i just want to let you know. I took my pre work out like 30 minuets ago thinking i was going to the gym. Now i'm bouncing off the walls. I drank my pre-workout before each exam this semester. I wrote a 12 page exam in 45 minutes. I know exactly what you're going through. Best of luck sleeping tonight my friend ;)
Any chance you could check out my demos? I was also wondering what you you thought of MPC's or maybe using software for drums... Thanks! Link to soundcloud.com. You have some solid compositions here, my friend! The recording is a bit shotty, but as for content, there's definitely emotion and talent here. Keep it up!
MPC's? I've used a few MPC's in my days. They're great! If I remember correctly, Just Blaze still uses an MPC for just about every record he does. I primarily use software or synthetic drums, if you will. If you have the technological know how, and musical knowledge, a good producer can make fake drums sound like they were played live!
Thanks Man! I recorded it using a really cheap amp and garage band so that probably explains the extreme Lo-Fi sound... What software would you recommend for synthetic drums? Mostly VST's of Midi drums the Virus has a lot of amazing drums that I love to use. Other than that. Big name producers won't tell you this, but, you can find every kind of drum you want floating around the internet. After that, it's all about how you process them!
DAW of choice? FL Studio for actually creating the the work. Pro Tools for mixing and mastering!
My perceptions of music producers is they are all guys in the 50's with graying ponytails, a coke habit and drive around in sports cars. how accurate is that? Well. Very inaccurate. If you see me walking down the street or on campus, unless I'm wearing my watch, you'd have no idea I make music. I look like your typical athletic college kid.
100 duck sized horses or 1 horse sized duck? 100 duck sized horses.
Hello. This has been hugely useful for me. I'm a sophomore in the Production Studies in Performing Arts, Audio Technology program, at Clemson University in South Carolina. I'd love to be pulled into the studio world or the live sound world. Other than work hard and network like crazy, what tips do you have for me to get into the industry? Interning is always a good way to get a real look at what the industry is like. Other than that. Depending on what you wanna do, you need to build a brand around yourself and develop your own following. Eventually labels will come knocking.
1)Favorite salad dressing. 2)Top 3 artists who make/made great producers? ex-dr dre and the like. 3)Have you listened to any music by Allen Stone? He seems to break up the "bland talentless" bunch nowadays with some serious soul! 1) Thousand Islands 2) a. Eminem b. J.Cole c. the OLD will.i.am 3)Can't say I have!
, congrats on the awesome job! Second, I've been an amateur producer for about a decade now. I'm ready to take it to the next level and become a professional engineer. What do you recommend? Upgrade your home studio.
Get some high quality studio monitors. High-end computer. Solid mixing board (although not needed with a good DAW). Start beginning to try and master every major DAW.
And something I like to do. Especially now a days. To keep your ear sharp. Listen to as much mainstream music as possible and pick out the faults in the mixing and mastering. It'll help tune your own ear when you're working!
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